Open-R1: a Fully Open Reproduction Of DeepSeek-R1

Hey there! This blog post is an introduction to the task, not a claim that we have actually replicated R1 yet. We’re building in the open, so as quickly as we have examination numbers, we’ll share them. You can follow our progress on Hugging Face and GitHub.

True, but it appears like there’s nothing to be examined as of today. I assume the ultimate goal is to train a brand-new reasoning model and after that utilize the same examination metrics as o1 and the DeepSeek-R1.

Well, there should be at least some peace of mind check and validation to ensure the design was trained properly.

Oh yes, if you are talking about the assessment number of deepseek’s design it’s coming soon!

As pointed out in the article there is no design called Open-R1 to test at all … not yet anyway. This is a blog site describing that Hugging face will take the R1 Deepseek model, exercise how it was constructed as described in the paper and from what they released, and after that replicate that procedure.

in reality this is practically how science works … A develops a plan, discovery or innovation and it is evaluated by B, C and D to see if it is reproduceable. Thats been the cornerstone of research now for a couple of centuries.

This blog is not saying they have actually currently done so … Its a blog outlining an intent to begin training a design like R1 and calling it Open-R1.

Also DeepSeek-R1 was just released recently, and even in their paper they detailed the compute hours needed. While those are low calculate hours for a SOTA model this does not suggest you can train stated model in a week. I ‘d personally like to be able to train a transformer model in a week, however we might need to wait a while for that level of calculate innovation.

So there are no criteria for a design that has not been constructed yet right? As outlined in the blog, and once again in reply to your question.

However fear not, there is a GitHub Repo already and factors (hell I may join myself), some prelim work done, and a plan of attack. An excellent starting position.

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@edbeeching
has assessed the released designs currently

( src: https://x.com/edwardbeeching/status/1884273209136275742)

R1 simply trained on o1 outputs, so collectively …/ s. This is what the brand-new AI czars are saying

Hi! This blog site post is an intro to the project, not a claim that we have actually replicated R1 yet. We will absolutely share the missing piece when we have them, you can expect the models and datasets to be upload in this Hugging Face org and the code to be in this GitHub repo

That’s good and crucial to comprehend this remarkable hype that lacks technical understanding and explanation. Science is about recreation, and if they claim to be open, let them fullfill the open part.

Please do release the training expense.

We will!

Excalidraw Hi n
@bojan2501
thanks, we will certainly be striving to ensure this training dish can work for little language designs on consumer hardware given that not everyone has a cluster of H100s in your home:-RRB- The tool we used for the images was Excalidraw! https://excalidraw.com

looking forward to it! WTF are your talking about?

need to be a joke

It’s really cool to see how the whole open source community comes together!

Ops …

5.5 M is number press reporter in the deepseekv3 tech report (just the training, not the experiment afaik), for R1 difficult to approximate tbh but much less than 5.5 M imo

Historically, they have never ever released code or datasets of their LLM training, so I would not expect this time to be different. If they would release it that would be incredible obviously!

Yes naturally!

So generally you’re asking to change existing censorship with another flavour of censorship?

The code for the models are inside the design repositories, e.g. for V3: https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V3/blob/main/modeling_deepseek.py

Hello Team, I’m Ray Bernard, the author and developer of EQUATOR. My research group will be working on a paper concentrated on replicating specific components of DeepSeek R1. Our aim is to replicate the cold start and offer your group with a dataset that includes COT and other strategies to support these efforts. We like to contribute our work to help. Please let me know if you discover this beneficial. Best, Ray Bernard https://www.facebook.com/groups/1186310571520299/

Where is the evaluation numbers? without it you can’t call it recreation.

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True, but it appears like there’s nothing to be assessed as of right now. I assume the ultimate objective is to train a new reasoning model and after that use the exact same evaluation metrics as o1 and the DeepSeek-R1.

That’s quite interesting, I was asking myself why the concerns the author exposed here are not being asked by others? I think the work they have actually done is unforgettable however at the same time I question why they would not put these missing pieces on if they are expected to be totally open.
Why even without recreation and understanding of the innovation they could impact so much the market in this method?

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Hi! This post is an intro to the project, not a claim that we have actually recreated R1 yet. We will totally share the missing piece when we have them, you can expect the models and datasets to be upload in this Hugging Face org and the code to be in this GitHub repo

Interesting read, and it is good that we see more effort into this direction: more optimization and less brute force.
Also wonder what tool did the author use for developing action diagram.

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Excalidraw I’m so delighted that initiative like this currently exist, I’m gon na try to contribute:-RRB- 1 reply

looking forward to it! So racist articel

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WTF are your speaking about?

Awesome to have this open reproduction began!

For Step # 1 check out https://github.com/open-thoughts/open-thoughts!

https://x.com/ryanmart3n/status/1884284101265612856

Let’s do this thing!

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It’s actually cool to see how the entire open source community comes together!

Does anyone know the actual training cost of r1? I can’t discover it in the paper or the announcement post. Is the 6M expense reported by media simply the number drawn from v3’s training expense?

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Ops …

Has anyone asked the DeepSeek team to release their training information and code, or at least share them privately with an independent duplication project like this? Have they declined such a request?

A loyal replication depends upon using the very same dataset and hyperparameters. Otherwise, any significant disparities with the published benchmarks would be difficult to pin down-whether due to training information distinctions or the replication technique itself.

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Historically, they have never launched code or datasets of their LLM training, so I would not expect this time to be different. If they would launch it that would be remarkable obviously!

In the meantime we need to make best guess price quotes and see if we can arrive ourselves.

You provide good duplication procedure of Deepseek thinking training. I will attempt something comparable to it.

This is actually great details, can we fine tune with particular use case when code is launched?

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Yes obviously!

Please consider eliminating prejudiced, polluted or unaligned training information and make an effort to remove copyrighted works from the crawl from intake. This will make the design more functional. If you recycled anthropic curation checks, this may likewise help, remove obviouslybiased information will likely add a lot of worth. We don’t desire another polluted, unaligned open source model, right? And no corporate would ever use deepseek or a design that recycles it, right?
We appreciate your work for the benefit of mankind, we hope.
Miike C from NJ

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So essentially you’re asking to replace existing censorship with another flavour of censorship?

Can’t wait! Hopefully the model will be uncensored however whatever you can do is alright! Love seeing open source building itself up. I’m not wise adequate to actually help but I can contribute support lol

Hello guys, I am even simply searching for code for DeepSeek-V2, in order to fully comprehend multi-head latent attention. You do not seem to have code in Hugging Face even for that. Or am I out on something? Don’t see anything in src/transformers/models. MLA is not appropriately explained in their paper, so it would be very important to have code for this.